Its not just about the shield numbers. You have to account for the fact that if you run armor you can also run damage mods, if you run shields you can't run damage mods. The imbalance between shields and armor occurs for this reason.

Shields are broken and have been broken. Next time you are in a fire fight watch how fast your shields vanish. Its been that way ever since they buffed armor around like 1.4 or something (can't remember). Unless CCP is doing something to shields they haven't talked about, nothing will be changing for 1.8. You will not need weapon prof or even full damage to cut through shields, which also makes the CR and RR still the top dog for post 1.8. AR will be sh*t on royaly, and the ScR will feel the pinch as well.

The claim extenders are better than damage mods right now is flawed and incorrect. Lets be generous and say a complex shield extender gives you 90 hp (im over estimating as im away from my system). And lets say an un damage modded gek with no prof does 30 damage per bullet (under estimating). That means 3 bullets from a gek takes out a complex shield extender. How long does it take to fire 3 bullets from a gek? Easily under a half second, lets say exactly .5 seconds for easy maths.

That means that with a gek (and all bullets landing of course) you can burn through 3 complex shield extenders in 1.5 seconds with an un modded un prof enhanced AR. Which says you are giving up 3 slots for an extra 1.5 seconds of life. And again, im ballparking and the gek actually does more damage, and shields protect less.

Or you can take those same three slots and turn them into an extra 16% damage with damage mods (again ballpark) which combine with weapon prof (on profs that boost damage) becomes a 31% damage boost.

The argument shield extenders are better than damage mods is stupid, and there is a reason nearly everyone stacks damage, not shields. And unless there are some unmentioned changes, damage mods will still be stacked over shields post 1.8.

The problem is that extenders are not better than armor mods (or even equal to them). It doesn't matter if they are better than damage mods or not. What mattes is if they are comparable to armor mods. Obviously you would need to take into consideration as to what you replace the armor mods with.

What matters most here is the skill of those people playing the game. I would think on average, for the most players, armor trumps shield always. Are there some players who can use shields and speed and scanners, etc. to their advantage and outperform an armor tank? Sure. But that doesn't apply to most people playing the game. So in general for most people armor is always the way to go.

Shields are broken and have been broken. Next time you are in a fire fight watch how fast your shields vanish. Its been that way ever since they buffed armor around like 1.4 or something (can't remember). Unless CCP is doing something to shields they haven't talked about, nothing will be changing for 1.8. You will not need weapon prof or even full damage to cut through shields, which also makes the CR and RR still the top dog for post 1.8. AR will be sh*t on royaly, and the ScR will feel the pinch as well.

The claim extenders are better than damage mods right now is flawed and incorrect. Lets be generous and say a complex shield extender gives you 90 hp (im over estimating as im away from my system). And lets say an un damage modded gek with no prof does 30 damage per bullet (under estimating). That means 3 bullets from a gek takes out a complex shield extender. How long does it take to fire 3 bullets from a gek? Easily under a half second, lets say exactly .5 seconds for easy maths.

That means that with a gek (and all bullets landing of course) you can burn through 3 complex shield extenders in 1.5 seconds with an un modded un prof enhanced AR. Which says you are giving up 3 slots for an extra 1.5 seconds of life. And again, im ballparking and the gek actually does more damage, and shields protect less.

Or you can take those same three slots and turn them into an extra 16% damage with damage mods (again ballpark) which combine with weapon prof (on profs that boost damage) becomes a 31% damage boost.

The argument shield extenders are better than damage mods is stupid, and there is a reason nearly everyone stacks damage, not shields. And unless there are some unmentioned changes, damage mods will still be stacked over shields post 1.8.